to the fbi contact, we have been speaking to this week, alabama state police, some sources who were close to the situation. we know this came down to the last 24 hours. and the fbi hostage rescue team, it's more than just the guys who go in to pull the child out. there are behavioral scientists, tactical technicians, the fbi swat, the negotiators, they are all here at the same time. we know in the last 24 hours, the communications with jimmy lee dykes became agitated. he continued to talk, but as it went on and on, he became less willing to negotiate, we heard from alabama state police this morning. then they noticed he had a gun, how, i will leave that to chris. but they said when you add the agitation with this weapon, they from the sources we have spoken with, said it came down to three options, either he was going to shoot himself, he was going to shoot himself and ethan, or he was going to do something to force them to come in and shoot him. so they decided at about 3:00 local time, 4:00 eastern yesterday, they had to go in. they pulled him out. we know that jimmy lee dykes was dead